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Looking for a set of blades and based on the previous review, I picked up both the Macgregor Tourney PMB's and the Cleveland 485's. Wow. The Cleveland hit absolutely great. Every hit was sweet as butter. The Beryllium Copper has such a great feel. The loft and spin on these clubs was fantastic. The 7, 8, 9 and PW were all biting and backing up on the green every time! I like the Macgregor's and I think you can work the ball just a little bit more with them. The PMB's are definitely more sexy looking. But on a mis-hit, it hurts. The Clevelands hit with a bigger sweet spot. I'll be using the Macgregors for practice but the Clevelands will be in the bag full time for playing. Great spin, great control, great look (not shiny, pure Cleveland lines).

Customer Service

They're vintage but Cleveland has always been very good at support. They replaced clubs even two years after I bought my TC-15's due to a cracked hosel. The reps are always interested in my vintage Clevelands!!

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Main club - Cleveland TC-15 for 20 years, also Macgregor PMB, Cleveland 588P sq. grv.

I always love muscle back blades and have been playing with McGregor Tourney PMB, Titleist 690MB, Titleist 660 limited edition as well as the Mizuno Super 702s. Recently I saw a used Cleveland 485 Berrylium Copper set on Bruinswick steel shafts. However the swing weight then was C7 and I got it reshafted on a shortened NS950 pro with 10 gram weight inserted as well as a light weight grips ( 37 grams). This manage to get the swing weight to only C8 ( due to shortened shaft). Anyway, first time on the course, the blades well and cuts thru the grass well but due to light swing weight, I loose a bit of distance.

Generally, McGregor PMB plays excellently but such a beautiful club to play around and both the Titleists plays better so far, especially the 690 MB but the classic cleveland is not far off and the appearance is quite unique and attractive. However need to play a few more rounds and do some weight tweaking (D3) to bring the best of it.

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MacGregor Tourney PMB, Titleist 690 MB, Titleist 660 Ltd Edition, Mizuno Super 702 and Honma H&F LB606 5 stars.