I recently bought a set with the orignal shafts and I would like the specs on these clubs. I can't find them anywhere and BH does not have that data anymore as they lost it when hogan died and they sold the company.

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Best irons ever. When you hit them on the sweet spot you feel nothing. When you hit the off center it might sting. I have hit pins when I am having a good day. Distance and directional control is amazing. Loft seems to be shorter than more modern clubs. Workingthe ball with these clubs is easy and consistant. If you are a scratch golfer you should try these irons. They may not fly as far, but if you want to control the ball you want these blades.

Hogan is my hero, but other than a beautiful addition to the corner of any room for just looking at them, the Ben Hogan Grind is definitely arguably the worst playing set of irons ever manufactured. They demand you to decelerate through the ball to even hit a usable shot. The thinnest one iron from the old days is how every club in the set is made. I have played with thousands of clubs, and I have never picked one up that felt like it had absolutely no sweet spot anywhere to be found. Unless you play on the most lush fairways in the world, like in Ireland, forget about compressing the ball with these clubs. No meat whatsoever. Something like the Wilson Staff Dynacraft, or MacGregor MT, or VIP, or even the Hogan Apex II are all excellent choices, along with so many others. These Grind clubs were made as a novelty, but most players would probably hit the irons with hickory shafts that Vardon, Jones, and Hagen used more solid than these. I have a set in mint condition that I like looking at, and I think to myself what were they thinking when they made these. Are these some kind of commemorative edition not meant for serious play or what. It is obvious Ben had no input on this model, and his engineers were not exactly geniuses in their understanding of the golf swing. Everything you would want out of an iron this one gives just the opposite. I can crush the no offset, nearly center shafted, short, miniature golf putters all day. I do most of my practicing with an old miniature golf putter. Take the best forged steel you can find and make a set of irons whose sweet spots and offsets and hosel placement all match those old cheap miniature golf putters and you would have the perfect clubs. MY opinion of course. My 4 Value Rating is for their beauty to look at, and as a guide for comparing all other irons ever made too. Take a set and go play a round on hard pan with them and see how well you do. The 1 is for them being the least playable iron I have ever encountered, and that includes some Northwesterns my Dad bought me and cut down when I was about 3.

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You name it, and I have played it, except cavity back anything, or regular flex shafts. Do not like hybrid clubs whatsoever either.

When I bought these (newish, clearance model from Edwin Watts) back in the day, I got the full set, 1-SW, and used them when I was in "mid-season form" in Wisconsin. Love these clubs and should play more with them. I have protected them with headcovers since new and they are mint. I often say you get what you deserve with these clubs but it's wonderful striking a blade well.

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I can't speak first-hand about this line. However I just was visiting with a guy at Golfsmith who did marketing for the Hogan Company, knew Mr. Hogan personally, played almost all the Hogan clubs at one time or another and has followed the Hogan brand closely ever since the mid 80's. I asked him if he could only own one set of Hogan clubs, which would it be? Without hesitating he said, "BH grind."

I have used the Apex Grinds for 10 years.My many good shooting friends say that I should get another set because the irons are so small.I have been around a 3 for many years as well.Once you get the swing of hitting a marshmello(thats how a good shot feels) you will never go back.I will NEVER get rid of these clubs.

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These are it Man! These are the best feeling, best turf interaction, best darn blades I have ever used. These are the blades I go back to after I use my ping Eye 2's and want to make sure that I can still hit a blade. Once you get in the groove it is hard to hit a bad shot. These are golden!

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Gad, I remember the gasp when I saw them new in '91. My old cherished Haig Ultras were lost during a move, years earlier. This Hogan set was gorgeous. I still think it's the most visually pleasing of all the Hogans.

At Christmas '92 an Edwin Watts catalog had these discounted to $299, to clear out for a new model. I think I broke the world land speed record filling out the form -- 1/2 inch long, #4 steel, 1 degree upright. And throw in a 1 iron, thank you very much. At that point I was early 30s strong and irons were my forte.

For a decade these were excellent. My first practice session I remember throwing range balls on the turf and routinely smacking the 1 iron 235 with a slight pull. My roommate was amazed but I wondered what the heck he was fussing about. That 1 iron went 245 off the tee and was a great substitute during the long stretches my driver was pathetic.

The relatively small profile allows an aggressive dig. My divots with these things probably could circle the planet. But I could never draw them reliably like the Haig Ultras, which was an adjustment. I agree with a previous reviewer who said a slight power cut works well. I was always able to work the 6 iron and 7 iron the best, either direction. Once you get into the 8-PW, with the offset, it's more of a hope it starts out in the proper place.

Ball flight is mid, if not a touch low. But when I was playing well in my 30s to early 40s, I had incredible confidence with this set. A young strong thumper would do well with the Grinds. The feeling is amazing on a pured strike. I just saw a full set go for $50 Buy It Now on eBay.

The sand wedge is probably the gem. Round and versatile. I keep it in my bag and prefer it to the newer Hogans like the updated Sure Out.

Don't kid yourself that modern technology makes up for advancing age and lost strength. By mid 40s a few years ago I was standing with a Grind 4 or 5 iron from 175 to 195 out, and asking myself, "Who am I trying to kid?" Instead of hoisting it confidently toward the pin it seemed like my realistic destination was low, into the front bunker. I reluctantly added the 2001 Hogan Apex Edge irons via eBay. Great looking also, but simply not as distinctive or as rewarding as the Grinds. Nor as accurate, IMO. And much more awkward to chip with, due to clunky oversized heads. Chipping is always under valued in picking irons, and seldom mentioned in the reviews here. The small head of the Grinds allows precise confident chipping, with feedback.

I wondered how I was as long off the tee on par 3s with an Edge 6 iron as a Grind 5 iron. Then I checked ironfinder.com. The specs on a Grind 5 iron and Edge 6 iron are identical, 30 degrees. Keep that in mind when old models are dismissed as 1 club shorter.

The Grinds are not as susceptible to bag chatter as the Edges. The sets are a decade apart in age but look similar in terms of wear. I never really worried about iron covers with the Grinds but the Edges need them.

Only one thing caused me to comparatively devalue the Grinds: Last summer I rescued the same model Haig Ultras from my youth, on eBay for 33 bucks. I still can't believe it. Matched shaft R flex steel, perfect for me at this stage. Excellent condition, other than one small nick on the sole of the 5 iron. Too bad golfreview doesn't retreat far enough for reviews of classic blades like the Haig Ultra. Ironfinder.com insists my model is from 1966, although I remember my dad buying them new for me in perhaps '73. Whatever. Maybe they were old and he was scammed. :)

I finally can hit a dependable draw again, with the larger and more rounded Haig Ultra short irons. The lofts are weak but that's a bonus. The pitching wedge is like a modern gap wedge at 51 degrees, and so easy to chip with, it can feel like theft.

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Never dealt with Hogan directly. Edwin Watts was very impressive, as always

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For clubs that are supposed to be hard to hit, it is surprising i can hit the one and two irons in my set with such regularity that I have never used the 3 or 5 wood.

The sand wedge hits clean but shorter irons are not very forgiving of a miss hit. I purchased mine in a close out bin. it was a matched set with #4 graphite apex shafts 1 through sand wedge. My guess is it was a special order that fell through. I just now replaced the grips with full cord lamkins after 14 years, so my game should improve. I've flipped from club to club and always come back to these. I paid nearly 1100 in 93 for the set plus 135 woods (gold graphite) I rarely break 100, but i can dead stop a ball on the green. (just can't putt).

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Bought it for 65 bucks, no wear on grooves ( V type )at all. Ben Hogan OEM steel shaft 4 ( probably stiff ). Good balanced and soft feel upon swinging and stricking the ball. Tour Grind. Newer models will impart more spin ( u grooves ), but I assume you can get same results with a softer cover ball. Upright lie/loft. The blades are elegantly designed and with a decent size. They don't have as much muscle as some other blades, but I assume you will need to practice a lot in getting decent clubhead speed and swinging on plane. To get any decent yardage on these I would guess you would need swinghead speeds from 100mph and upwards

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